|Drawing of a fellow artist in a sketch group|
, I asked: What are your pet peeves about figure drawing groups?
Here's what you answered:
Often unimaginative setups or setups that flatten out the figure entirely with lighting. The one I frequent has several overhead lights that not only flatten it but create several conflicting shadows going across the model.
I wish I HAD a sketch group to go to!
I don't have so many pet peeves but I sure wish I could find more time to study the figure. I used to be in a self-run figure drawing group; we used ourselves as our own models, volunteering each night we could meet.
Not enough of them
Not lighting the model!
Having to draw ...
Just kidding by the way, I love drawing!
Jostling for easel space!
Being so far away you can’t see any details.
I can't afford to go consistently :/
When people talk while the model is posing
Being looked down the length of people’s noses when they see your sketch and realise you are not as good as they are. If I ever go back to that group I think I will just draw a stick man/woman and have fun with their snob reactions!
When other artists, typically male but not always, want to sexualize the pose. I live in Texas.
Sensitive models 🤷♂️
build a canopy from cardboard and or fabric 🤷♂️
also use cheap pluming tubes from a diy store for frame. No glue so its not permanent 🤔😉👍
I second Garbage Lighting. That and lazy models.
When the breaks get longer and longer.
Models that talk
Too much/not enough time spent on warm up gestures. I'm a slow starter.
Sudden boners. That shadow wasn't there before!
When people aren’t sensitive towards models 😉not an easy job just sayin...
You using conte here?
Other pet peeves: bad lighting, lazy setup, bad music, unprofessional behavior, boring poses (you can tell when the model doesn’t try very hard but again it’s a physically challenging job)
Slight but constent movements that turn the post into something else
Do you have any tips for starting a sketch group?
Would you say some areas of the country experience more male/female artist disparity than others?
People who draw things other than the model—once someone was drawing me (and other people in the session) instead and it was so distracting. Also why pay for a model to draw people who aren’t sitting still?
hard to do if those are the only lights used for the model, and they’re clustered together. I’m also not the one running the session. Mentioned it before but they’re ambivalent towards it
As an artist and a model, unprofessional coordinators. You're here to keep things safe and professional for everyone. I'm not here to run your class.
That sometimes you have the sudden urge to look at your neighbors figure and then get envious of them. Focus on your side of the field. Always.
yeah i stopped going to the local life drawing club after 10 years b/c of bs 🤷♂️ i hire my own models now
My loval life drawing classes are brilliant, but I do wish the lighting was better...
Guilty as charged. But sometimes the other artists are more interesting than the model.
1. Agree up front on the length of poses and the lighting. 2. Agree also on the music or lack of it. 3. Be sensitive about oil fumes; some people are allergic. 4. If you're running your own sketch group, be ready for no one to show; you may have to pay the model fee yourself.
reminds me of your art
My personal pet peeve is that we seldom have enough male models. I think about 90% of my sittings have been with female models. I love the female form but for learning some more men would be fine ;)
Tall people sitting in front! 😜
A great male model in college had big wild hair and brought great props like spears and tree limbs. Those were great days..
I wrote ‘great’ too many times-sorry
thanks! I'm excited to get something going! I find it's pretty tough to find other artists near me interested in observational art.
Just the lack of professionalism of the models or the people running the group. At least where I live its hard to find well thought out life drawing groups. Its good to have fun and hangout with artists and the models but the setup or quality of the group shouldn’t be sacrificed. Life drawing has a purpose beyond just hobby. Or multiple purposes.
I remember one particular class where my prof (a woman) actually started nitpicking/complaining that I was making the model (also a woman) less attractive by drawing wrinkles n' flabs and whatnot. I was like... are you serious right now? I'm just drawing what I see, isn't that the point?? XD
1.)No chatting! 2.)Only the model can pick the music and no music without asking first! 3.) oil painters must use Gamsol odorless thinner, and/or Res-n-gel. No old artschool mediums containing turps! 4.) better yet, dry media only!
I thought it was great!
My pet peeve is that there aren't any sketch groups near me!
Every one in my area is short nude poses only.
I used to go to a weekly life drawing group, but I stopped because the music was _always_ flamenco/salsa! Sometimes it was fine, but every time was just too much.
I’ve now moved and am looking into either sitting in on a college class, or starting a group once the studio reno is done.
I think so (?) I’ve only been to life drawing studios in NYC, Seattle and now Austin
Lack there of, or a very long drive there.
When the model lays flat on the ground so your drawing looks like a dead person.
I once joined a new life drawing group at a gallery in Johannesburg. The model, a man sitting playing a guitar, made his pose include direct eye contact with one artist; Me. Every time I looked up, or looked at him or tried to focus on one feature to draw, his eyes would find mine. It was really disturbing and distracting. Even when I shifted places, they found me. I put my head down and turned the drawing into a man/tree: his fingers and hair and the guitar melting into branches and vines and leaves. I could still feel his eyes on me all night. It felt weird and creepy. I threw the drawing away and never went back to that class.
I just started to go to figure drawing groups and draw with a live model and i loved it! It is so much fun!
Peeves? Poorly organized events in terms of space, time control management and lighting. Models—regardless of body type—who believe the job is to sit still while naked without regard to the substantial history and range that can be brought to a posing Repertoire. Model’s pay, which inexplicably remains flat. How can we expect models to be professional when many make only a few dollars above minimum wage. Attendees who simply ogle the model rather than attempt to draw them. Seating/stools/easel setups could use some work in a few venues I’ve drawn at over the years. Currently, I draw the model in a studio context twice a week. Could add more, but these are the big ones.
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